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 Poruka Poslao: 04 Feb, 2009 10:46 am    Naslov: HIPNOZA I AUTOHIPNOZA
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Da li je neko imao iskustva sa hipnozom ili autohipnozom?
Čitajući neke strane sajtove naišao sam na dosta materijala iz tih oblasti. Naglasak je na CD ili DVD kursevima autohipnoze pomoću kojih se osoba može riješiti mnoštva problema. Kao: skidanje viška kilograma, prestanak pušenja, poboljšanje koncentracije, uklanjanje-smanjenje stresa, otklanjanje treme kod javnih nastupa....
Nisam naišao na primjere za ostvarenje-materijalizaciju željenog. Doduše, ni moj engleski nije nešto pa je lako moguće da sam preskočio tu vrstu primjera.
No, ideja mi se čini dobrom. Autohipnozom usaditi željeno duboko u podsvjesno tako da bi materijalizacija mogla biti brža i izvjesnija, pošto bi se premostile sumnje u pozitivan ishod. Laughing
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Dobro si me podsetio na nju sam potpuno zaboravio, završio sam dvodnevni kurs autohipnoze pre nekoliko godina kod Vase Vujića u BG koji je i napisao knjigu HIPNOZA U PRAKSI.
Meni lično to stanje u početku nije odgovaralo jer se nisam osećao prijatno zbog straha od nepoznatog. Koristio sam autohipnozu najviše za samorazvoj i lična ubedjenja i vrlo je moćna za zaštitu kao i za otklanjanje raznih tegoba, može se koristiti za sve.
Ulazak u autohipnozu je lak ko zna postupak i kada se uvežba to postaje lako po automatizmu.
Autohipnozu bih toplo preporučio svima!
Hvala Androgin baš ću da se autohipnotišem danas Very Happy
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Eh to bi bilo odlicno kada bi autohipnozom mogao da se programiram da mantram 16 krugova svakodnevno..

Mada verovatno bih se sprzio posto nijednom nisam mantrao vise od 9..
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Androgin:
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Naglasak je na CD ili DVD kursevima autohipnoze pomoću kojih se osoba može riješiti mnoštva problema. Kao: skidanje viška kilograma, prestanak pušenja, poboljšanje koncentracije, uklanjanje-smanjenje stresa, otklanjanje treme kod javnih nastupa....


Ja imam te cd-ove (Hemy-Sync, Robert Monroe) ali za vantelesna iskustva, komplet od 6 cd-a, koje jos uvek nisam "odslusala" Embarassed ..Pocela sam pa odustala..inace, Hemy-Sync takodje ima i takve programe kao sto si naveo..Sto se tice engleskog jezika, nema tu mnogo price, samo je prvi cd-upoznavanje i to na lako razumljivom engleskom, ostatak su odredjeni zvuci koji ujednacavaju rad leve i desne polovine mozga i po jedna recenica na svakih 20 min...
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michelle ::
Androgin:
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Naglasak je na CD ili DVD kursevima autohipnoze pomoću kojih se osoba može riješiti mnoštva problema. Kao: skidanje viška kilograma, prestanak pušenja, poboljšanje koncentracije, uklanjanje-smanjenje stresa, otklanjanje treme kod javnih nastupa....


Ja imam te cd-ove (Hemy-Sync, Robert Monroe) ali za vantelesna iskustva, komplet od 6 cd-a, koje jos uvek nisam "odslusala" Embarassed ..Pocela sam pa odustala..inace, Hemy-Sync takodje ima i takve programe kao sto si naveo..Sto se tice engleskog jezika, nema tu mnogo price, samo je prvi cd-upoznavanje i to na lako razumljivom engleskom, ostatak su odredjeni zvuci koji ujednacavaju rad leve i desne polovine mozga i po jedna recenica na svakih 20 min...


say what?

Ja sam radio sa Hemisync-om, sjajno je!
Samo bih preporucio da se ide redom.
prvo se treba upoznati sa radom gospodina Monroea, procitati knjige, malo komentare... Upoznati se sa situacijom... i onda koristiti hemisync.
Ja znam da radi... Cisto da potvrdim.
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Gibo, ja sam to kupila pre jedno dva meseca i jos nisam radila sa njima, samo sa prva 2 cd-a, znam da se mora ici redom..inace prvo sam se i upoznala sa radom gospodina Monroa, pa me je to bas zaintrigiralo da sam kasnije i kupila Hemy-Sinc, ali eto nisam imala vremena a vec danima gledam cd-e i razmisljam kad cu poceti sa radom..
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Ja znam da radi... Cisto da potvrdim.


E sad stvarno moram da probam Laughing

"THE GREATEST ILLUSION IS THAT MANKIND HAS LIMITATIONS"
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Onda razumes, treba se upoznati da bi se razumeo sistem Phasinga, nivoi fokusa... ali pre svega da bi se "zasejalo" verovanje. To je najbitnije...
Ja sam pokusao ranije da pokrenem tu temu ali sem Talermana nije se bas primilo pa sam odustao... Ali bice mi bas drago da malo podelim sa nekim to, jer to je moje "najuze interesovanje" Smile
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What is 'Phasing', and how can I do it?
The term “phasing” was originally coined from an idea presented by the author Robert Monroe who spent much of his physical lifetime researching OBE phenomena. His early work, detailed in his first book Journeys Out Of The Body, followed very traditional lines of study. Such that strong parallels can be drawn between his experiences detailed in that book, and the work of the traditional mystics.

However, his later books Far Journeys and Ultimate Journey, published many years later, reveal how his work had progressed to the development and formation of a completely different model of consciousness. His early “locale” concept had been totally replaced by a series of mental Focus Levels. These levels were labelled by using an escalating series of arbitrary numbers. Each level was identified from the mental impressions presented that Monroe categorised and labelled, so that others could follow in his work and duplicate his experiences.

At some point in his experience, Monroe was able to determine the profound truth, that there is no separation within consciousness. Whereas in his early work it felt to him he was “leaving” and “separating” from his physical body in the more traditional sense. His later experiences led him to conclude that he was not “leaving” his body at all. But what he was doing, in his words, was changing the phase relationship between himself and his surroundings. It was from this discovery that the term “Phasing” came into being.

Monroe was an electronics engineer by profession, and it so happens that I too graduated in electronics, so I understand where he was coming from when he talks about phase relationships. You can have two voltages present on the very same wire (you can have many numbers but for this example we’ll have just two). To all intents and purposes, those two voltages are mixed, but at the same time they are separated. What separates these two voltages is the phase-angle relationship between them.

Monroe used this phase-angle relationship idea as an analogy to describe the relationship between the physical or objective layer of consciousness, and the non-physical or subjective layer of consciousness. Each respective area of consciousness occupies the same area in “space” and to all intents, they are mixed but at the same time they are separated. So Monroe figured there was a 180-degree Phase Relationship between the two areas of reality. To him, projection became a case of "switching phase" between the physical and the non-physical.

Phasing, therefore, entails initiating a 180-degree phase shift between the physical and the non-physical realms of reality. The way this is done is rather different from the traditional ways of initiating an “out of body” experience. In fact, Phasing does not incorporate any kind of out of body feelings at all. The normal bodily vehicle can remain and all that changes is a person’s environment.

The key to Phasing is to just let the experience flow. You need to allow yourself to become it, as opposed to trying to go to it, or point to it, with some kind of “method”. Just lay back and simply become it. At which point people usually say, "Yeah, but Frank it’s okay for you but when I close my eyes all I see is blackness. “Well, that is all I see at first!”

I think often that people are too hasty to discount these initial stages, and they just go off on some method.

When I close my eyes all I see is blackness. But I think the essential difference between me and many beginners is when they close their eyes they are not really noticing. And that’s another key to it… that of noticing self. I think people become too wrapped up in methods and techniques, and it prevents them from really noticing themselves.

Okay, so as I say, when I close my eyes all I see is blackness, which is normal. I’ll wriggle around a bit to get comfortable, maybe my knee is itching and my hair is tickling my ear or something. So I’ll sort all that out and just concentrate on breathing gently for 5 minutes or so. Now, because I am noticing as opposed to avidly trying to perfect and follow some technique or method, in the traditional sense, my full attention is taken by the simple act of noticing.

People often tell me that they keep trying and they are saying about how they are concentrating upon holding their awareness outside of themselves, and at the same time they are concentrating on “raising energy” and doing everything correctly, and whatever… but nothing is happening. That’s right, because all their attention is fixated elsewhere, whereas all my attention is fixated on noticing.

Noticing what?

Well, nothing at first, there’s not much to see really but blackness. But then, after a short while, I may see that perhaps one part of the blackness is not quite so black. Perhaps there was just a brief flash of something, then maybe a sensation of a movement somewhere else. Maybe I just heard someone call my name. Hmm, that’s interesting, I might think, I wonder where that came from. But I don’t get too curious I just keep noticing. I might see swirling areas of not quite so black as the rest. I might see flashes of this and that. As I am offering myself these images, my attention is steadily becoming more fixated within.

As my attention becomes fixated within, from the act of noticing, at this stage I am not aware of my physical body. Part of my awareness realises that somewhere in the background is a physical body, in bed, etc. but I have phased away from it. Before, the forefront of my awareness was my physical and 180 degrees turned around from that, in the background of my awareness, was the non-physical. But now there has been a “phase shift” i.e. a turning through 180 degrees. Now, my previous foreground (physical) is my background, and my previous background (non-physical) is my foreground.

This is what is meant by “phasing” because you cause a 180-degree Phase Shift between the non-physical and the physical. As I say, Monroe first coined the term as he was an electronics engineer and he was picturing it like it were two voltages, 180 degrees out of phase with each other. Hence he coined the term Phasing. But I guess people generally have difficulties picturing two voltages 180-degrees out of phase with each other. So, instead, imagine a revolving door that is the entrance to a building. Any old building, it doesn’t matter.

You are standing outside the building. So the “outside” is your reality. You are aware of a reality that exists inside the building, but is closed to you by the door. Now, go through and turn the door 180 degrees and stop (oh, in case anyone doesn’t know there are 360 degrees in a circle, so 180 degrees is half a circle). Now, you are inside the building. So the “inside” is your reality. You are aware of a reality that exists outside the building, but it is closed to you by the door. Now again go through and turn the door by 180 degrees, and stop. So now, the “outside” is your reality again.

Each time you go though the door and turn through 180 degrees, there is a 180-degree “phase shift” between your awareness of the outside and your awareness of the inside, in terms of your reality.

Okay, so as my attention becomes fixated within, from the act of noticing, this causes a 180-degree phase shift between my awareness of the physical (outer) and my awareness of the non-physical (inner) sense of reality. So from then on, I continue to notice anything that may come about. I’m not all that curious, I’m not trying to make anything happen, I’m not enacting some kind of method or technique, I’m simply looking within and noticing what is taking place, and the act of doing that is focusing my attention.

As a person focuses their attention within themselves, through the action of noticing, they allow themselves to view “snippets” of other dimensions of reality. This action is translated objectively as the perception of flashes of all manner of this and that, random images that come and go, all kinds of spurious sounds, and so forth. Sometimes these snippets can form what I call 'astral screens' where you objectively perceive something similar to a cinema screen effect in front of your non-physical field of vision, complete with moving images and sounds. What is happening is that you are objectively offering yourself snippets of other dimensions of reality. If you then decide to step into these scenes, you will find yourself in that 'location', within that particular region of consciousness.

I think, ultimately, what people who follow the Phasing approach need to be realising is: the other dimensions of reality only seem to be objectively separated. But in reality, there is no separation in consciousness. We place a veil between the place we call “here” and the place we call “there” for the purposes of our experience. However, all these dimensions of reality are all affecting, entwined, and exchanging energy with us within every moment of our existence! It’s just that we objectively CHOOSE not to view this action.

By following the action of noticing, what you are saying to yourself is: “Okay, self, I would like to objectively choose to view this action for a while.”

There is plenty advice in books and online, which you can look at in order to find out more detailed information on the practicals of the phasing approach, so I will not go into additional detail here. What I feel is more important is to try to explain exactly what it is that we are phasing to... what is the 'astral world' anyway and how is it related to our physical world. What exactly IS the Wider Reality? That is what I will attempt to explain here.

OVAJ TEKST IMA NASTAVAK KOJI CU POSTAVITI AKO NEKOG BUDE ZANIMALO, DA NESPAMUJEM PREVISE...


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Zanimljivo.

Posebno mi je zanimljivo to sto je napisao kako se postepeno kada zmuri iz crnila krecu da se pojavljuju razlicite svetlosti, a on samo primecuje.

Postavio bih vam pitanje,

sta vidite kada zmurite?

Crnilo ili nesto drugo?

I koliko vam je dugo potrebno da iz crnila pocnete da vidjate to nesto drugo?
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talerman ::
Zanimljivo.

Posebno mi je zanimljivo to sto je napisao kako se postepeno kada zmuri iz crnila krecu da se pojavljuju razlicite svetlosti, a on samo primecuje.

Postavio bih vam pitanje,

sta vidite kada zmurite?

Crnilo ili nesto drugo?

I koliko vam je dugo potrebno da iz crnila pocnete da vidjate to nesto drugo?


Zavisi kada i kako.

U poslednje vreme radim na tome da odrzim fokus u tom polju "iza crnila" (kako bih ga nazvao?). Uspevam da izdrzim sve duze i duze. Trenutno mogu oko 5-6 sekundi, a u pocetku samo na blic... Javi mi se odredjena "slika" i "udjem" u nju... kao paralelni svet. Nije bas hipnagogik, vise kao remote viewing.
Bas to, da budem posmatrac jer ako se ukljucim onda me usisa, kao u san i izgubim kontinuitet u secanju.
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Gibo, nisam procitala ovaj tvoj tekst o "phasingu"..ispasce mi oci Shocked , ali potrudicu se da procitam..
Ja sam uzela Hemy-Sinc zato sto mi je jako zanimljivo OBE, vantelesna iskustva, astralna projekcija..nisam se jos svesno projektovala, probacu uz pomoc ovih cd-ova..Sto se tice tog "crnila", ovde na 2 nivou je vezba da se sat vremena ostane u tom stanju da se vidi samo "crnilo" i nista drugo..
Prvi nivo je vezba da se ostane budan na toj granici sa snom, tj. da se ne utone u san..takodje sat vremena..ima jos 2 nivoa..vezbacu pa javljam rezultate..
Inace, ja cesto znam reci pred spavanje-odoh malo na Astral i cim se valjda odvojim (jednom sam na kratko videla svoju sobu) tako se brzo i naglo vratim, to osetim po jakom trzaju nogu (jednom zamalo krevet ne slomih), kao da sam "pala"..to me verovatno fizicko telo odmah povuce nazad..Rolling Eyes
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Da li ti imas Gateway ili neki drugi program od hemisync-a?

To je ceo sistem kada udjes malo dublje u to... Kada kazem sistem mislim na "objasnjenje" percepcije.

A u biti je samospoznaja...

Meni se svidja jer je prizemna i lako razumljiva, sa konkretnim idejama za praksu i iskustvo.
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Ja imam Hemy-Sinc Support for JOURNEYS OUT OF THE BODY..
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Mozes da opises ukratko? Nabavicu i to. Ja imam Gateway- odlican je!
Probaj sa njim, on je za pocetnike, lepo prati kroz sve korake.
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