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[Olivera]

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The paradox of time
Part One: Visualize with me something simplistic. See it in your mind to understand it. There is a train. The train is you. It is on a track, which is your time frame in 3D. In your perception, this train moves along a track at a constant speed and the track is straight as an arrow. The speed is your clock, and it never changes. You can see the track in front of you disappear into the distance. It is in front of the train, represented as your future. In back of the train is represented as your past. The train is very, very short, only a few cars. You are the train... the head, the torso, and the legs and arms. The train moves slowly at a constant pace called your reality. That's your 3D reality.

Visualize this train moving in your reality, but know that from my standpoint, your true interdimensional train is not what you see. For when I look at you, the same train, I see a train in a very, very small circle. The circle is so small that it's only a bit larger than the train itself. Therefore, the Kryon description of your train is one that is traveling in a very small circle. Now get this very clear: What you see and what I see are actually the same things, but the idea here is to help you understand the limitation of your perception, so you can get an idea of the truth of how things work. For what I'm going to show and tell you in the next stage and what I'm going to show my partner is going to help you understand the un-understandable. It's going to help you to fit in to what I'm going to teach you in the next three points after I show you this.

Let us say that you are going to speak to your cells every day for the rest of your life, and you are going to do something to change them (a healing, for instance). Let us say that as you do this, it represents the metaphor of painting the track as it moves under you while you're on your train. Let's say the color is going to be red, because that sticks out for this example. Here you are speaking to your cells, and you're making a change in your biology. You are marking when that change took place by painting the track red. You have the paint on board, and you are able to paint the track a bright red as you move forward.

Now, picture this in 3D, for it's important for you to see this in your mind. You are starting to paint the track red, which is a change in your cells, because you are a powerful person who is in touch with your own cellular structure (the potential for all of you). In your three dimensions, as the train moves along, you can look back and see where you started to paint the track red and that red section disappears behind you. You can also look ahead and you'll see that the track is not yet red, but it will be when you get there to paint it, for in your mind you are continuing to paint all your life. Because of your time, you're painting a red segment of the track that keeps getting longer and longer as you age. This is your 3D perception of painting the track red in your time frame.

Now come to my side for a moment. Oh, I don't know if you're going to get this or not, but this is beautiful! What I'm going to tell you is beautiful! Oh, it's just a simple train and a red track, but listen: From my perspective in that tiny little circle you've started painting, the entire track became red almost instantly. In about a minute, the whole thing became red forever! It's red in front of you and in back of you as far as you can see, because interdimensionally, it's in a small circle. That's the interdimensional perception... and if you haven't figured it out yet, your cells and DNA are interdimensional. So it's your linear perception that keeps you thinking that the very long track ahead needs to be painted every day, and it's only your limited view that keeps you from the truth that what you do with pure intent is forever. The track can't be unpainted... ever! The track is now completely and totally red. As profound as this is from a healing standpoint, it's going to get even better and more complex in a moment.

Part Two: Continue your 3D visualization. There you are painting the track. You are going to create an object and drop it off the train. Perhaps it's manifestation of something you have asked for. It's an object for the sake of this visualization, and you created it as you moved along the track, and dropped it to the side. Maybe it's an epiphany. Maybe it is co-creation.

After you dropped it off, you of course moved past it, since your train is always in motion. Therefore, in your perception you can say, "That's what I did and there it goes in the distance behind me... my past." You have a date and time of remembrance, because it's now in your past that this was done.

But something is happening that is a puzzle: Interestingly enough, as you move along the track, here comes that object again! So you interpret this in your own way as a sign from God that is saying, "You must do it again." So you recommit yourself and you redo whatever it was you did to create the object yet again.

"There it goes!" you say, and you feel that you have accomplished a renewal of your manifestation, or your self-healing, or your requests to God. A little while longer, here it comes again! You interpret this as signs of "keeping the jar full." In three dimensions you are used to filling a jar little by little, hoping there are no leaks, planning for time to wear something down. It's very three dimensional, so you repeat things. You go at it again and again. "Here it comes, let's do it again. It feels good to keep the jar full. Let's do it again."

Let me tell you what the truth is: The reality is that you exist in an interdimensional world, and even your science now admits it. However, you continue to perceive everything on a straight timeline, which ages you and naturally pushes you to constantly renew things. However, what is really happening spiritually, and with your cells, is that you create whatever it is we're talking about in a very tiny circle. Once you do it, the entire circle is affected forever. It never needs to be renewed since you were finished with the manifestation as soon as you did it... forever!

Here is the hard part. If you have been staying with me... if your track is a circle, then you constantly travel the same space. That means as you look behind you, it was once your future! As you look in front of you, it was once your past. A circle is like that. If this is so, I have a question: Can you then change your past by doing something that affects the track that is under you now? Stay with me.

Listen. Using this visualization and the paradox of time, I'll now give you three attributes of interdimensional healing, going from easy to more difficult to unbelievable.


Odlomak iz kanalisane poruke o kvantnom lečenju, o paradoksu vremena, o dimenzijama... jedan od boljih tekstova na tu temu ... samo ima začkoljicu što je na engleskom.... ali google prevodilac rešava donekle problem ...

http://starseed411.org/group/kryon/forum/topic/show?id=4553952%3ATopic%3A50435&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

[alex radovic]

[url=http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=103856#p103856][img]http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/images/quotebackarrow.gif[/img][/url][quote="Giba"][quote]ZAISTA se odnosi na - SASVIM JEDNOSTAVNO!!!
Za one KOJIMA TO JESTE - SASVIM JEDNOSTAVNO, ZAISTA.[/quote]

Na to sam i mislio.

Ti si [b]ubedjen da poimas istinu i[/b] [b]da imas pravo da prcenjujes sta jeste -zaista- sasvim i jednostavo- za one koji hoce...[/b]
A istina je fluidna i promenljiva, tekuca...
Cim mislis da si je uhvatio- eto tebe u spekulacijama.

I to se zove gordost. "Ja sam SHVATIO ISTINU", pa cu vam "JA reci-ZAISTA ko hoce..."

:[/quote]

Gibo, ja se sa tobom ali u potpunosti slazem. Cak sta vise o tome sam dosta i pisao.

a zasto mislis da MORAS da hvatas istinu, kad je jednostavno da PLIVAS, UNUTAR NJE?

U cemu je razlika izmedju tvoje ISTINE i navedne?

sta je JEDNOSTAVNIJE?

PREDATI SE ... ili HVATATI?

ali ako je bitno moje - GORDOST, to je meni sasvim ok...

[b]ZAISTA.[/b]

hocemo li jos da - spekulujemo?

ili se razumemo, jasnije barem malo?

da ponovim - [b]SLAZEM SE, POTPUNO, SA TOBOM![/b]
i pisao na desetine ako ne i stotine postova, takvih.
ako se secam.

znaci i NIJE ONO MOJE ISTINA, NEGO OVO DRUGO.

ili jeste SVE? ZAJEDNO?

Ali da ne komplikujem.

sta, sada, ti igras?

koji - tip?
hahaha


pozz

[alex radovic]

[url=http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=103856#p103856][img]http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/images/quotebackarrow.gif[/img][/url][quote="Giba"][quote]

Objasnio bih zasto nepostoji reinkarnacija- al to bi vec bilo papagajisanje smoje strane...

To je isto jedna od spekulacija, za odredjenu svrhu... implementirana za spekulisanja... :lol:[/quote]

ajde Gibo, objasni svoju Istinu, gordu, hahaha...
da se malo zezamo i salimo.

ovde se NE SLAZEM SA TOBOM, jer reinkarnacija I POTSOJI I NEPOSTOJI, U ISTO VREME!!!

To iskustvo imam i nemam, pa ne mogu da ti dokazem.

ostej ili da mi verujes ili da iskusis sam.

a li ako treba da objasnimo ZASTO NE POSTOJI, to smo vec objasnjavali dakako, to je SAMO POLOVINA...
DRUGA...
OD ONOGA DA - POSTOJI...
zar ne?

kao iluzija vremena, Maya.

ali ajd, ko ce to jos da razume, jednostavno?

a tek jos i ono trece, i da postoji i nepostoji u isto vreme i jos i vecno, hahaha.


eeto to je, mozda, komplikovano.

ali, mozda je i najjednostavnije, drugima, ne znam.

pozz

da cuem misljenja, da znam gde sam, u kojim dimenzijama.

Gibo jel se drzis, jos uvek te iste - istine, da nema reinkarnacije?

[Jiva]

Ti i dalje nastavljas po starom: i-i, ili- ili.

Nema i-i, nema ili-ili...

To si se ti zajebao u koracima i sad ti je tesko da se odreknes svega sto si skupio za sebe sa svim tim.

Videces, kad dodje vreme neces nista od toga moci da poneses.

A ovaj drugi deo, sa objasnjenjem reinkarnacije, je trebao da bude zajebancija- za one koji shvate- o projekcijama i svrabovima... :lol: sa projektovanjem objasnjavam projektovanje, nije li lep ovaj svet?

[Jiva]

[quote]sta je JEDNOSTAVNIJE?

PREDATI SE ... ili HVATATI?[/quote]

Da, ovo je sustina, otprilike...

Predaj se, PREDAJ SE.

Nema sta da se drzis za ideje, o reinkarnaciji, o i-i, o ili-ili...

NE DRZI SE za te projekcije.

Jel ti primecujes da se drzis za ideju o prepustanju?

Pazi sad, ovo je jako bitno- [u]DRZIS se za ideju u prepustanju![/u]

[alex radovic]

[url=http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=103947#p103947][img]http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/images/quotebackarrow.gif[/img][/url][quote="Giba"][quote]sta je JEDNOSTAVNIJE?

PREDATI SE ... ili HVATATI?[/quote]

Da, ovo je sustina, otprilike...

Predaj se, PREDAJ SE.

Nema sta da se drzis za ideje, o reinkarnaciji, o i-i, o ili-ili...

NE DRZI SE za te projekcije.

Jel ti primecujes da se drzis za ideju o prepustanju?

Pazi sad, ovo je jako bitno- [u]DRZIS se za ideju u prepustanju![/u][/quote]

Gibo , ne bih da te razocaram i tvoj ponos,
ali,
DOVOLJNO JE JEDNOM da kazes, da bih te razumeo.
to ZNACI - jasno!?
t.j. JEDNOSTAVNO, ZAISTA.

Ali, hajde, zabavno je i meni da spekulujem, pa da napisem i svoje spekulacije.

mada sam vec JEDNOSTAVNO NAPISAO:

ACYNTA BEDA ABEDA...

U ISTO VREME

PAZI SAD OVO

I ISTO I RAZLICITO!

E, vala, ovo nije tebi jednostavno, cim se [b]hvatas za predavanje[/b],
pa da objasnim, PONOVO:

Jer sada ZAISTA - NIJE JEDNOSTAVNO?

Pitam tebe, ponovo, tvoju istinu?

Dakle u OVOJ ISTINI, UJEDNO JE, I U ISTO VREME
I DRZANJE I PREDAVANJE SE...

JA SE DRZIM TOGA, PREDANO.

I deluje mi interesantno.

i PRIZNAJEM - DA SE TOGA - DRZIM.

PAZI SADA, DRZIM SE... ZAJEDNO, a mozda i SAMO pojedinacno, ako sam te dobro razumeo, u isto vreme.

pa sad da spekulujemo zajedno, u isto vreme... beskonacno?

pitanje za tebe, iskreno: da li ti ja delujem kao covek koji se ZAISTA DRZI ( samo) IDEJE - PREPUSTANJA,
kao sto si naznacio DVA PUTA?
Ili si primetio, IKADA, da postoji i NESTO DRUGO?
Uhvati me, ako mozes, hahaha!

pa da imam i ja neko prosirenje, nesto NOVO, STO DO SADA NISAM UGRADIO U SEBE!
Ovo vec imam, Gibo, verovao ili ne, svejedno.
i drzanje i prepustanje i STEZANJE za vrat, ima dosta kombinacija, i u razmnim ego stanjima, ako treba...
ma, PUSTI TO... DUGACKA PRICA.

mozemo samo da se zavrtimo, i sta onda?
... e, a sada, kao sto rekoh, malo i ja da spekulujem
izneo si neke reci... JEDNOSTAVNE,...
GORDOST... i sl... kao nekakav TVOJ FOKUS, istinu...

a ja sam imao u spekulaciji nesto sasvim drugo, mada prihvatam i tvoje.

dakle kako su RECI - JEDNOSTAVNE, ZAISTA...
KADA UDJES U DUBINU!
kratke reci, malo texta i sve je jasno. meni jer sam na toj frekvenciji i ISKUSTVU, svejedno da li je neko drugi.

na pr: rec: DA!

Koliko je to JEDNOSTAVNO, ZAISTA...

UCI U OVO, doziveti, iskusiti... ne smao ono SUDBONOSNO - DA!... nego uopste i izva uopste, pojedinacno.
a onaj ko hoce da spekuluje, objasnjava, razlozi, izmeri...
dakle O OVOME SAM IMAO NA MISLI U ONOJ POCETNOJ - RECENICI!
...
naravno, u skladu sa okolnostima, i drzanjem za DA... reci ce neko da se ispusta nesto drugo... NE, na primer.
ili zajedno i da i ne, t.j. SVE - JEDNO.

Ali, svejedno... krugovi imaju SVOJ POCETAK I KRAJ, NA ISTOM MESTU.

DA... ili NE?
ringispil Gibo, jer TO I JESU - UMNE SPEKULACIJE... VECNA VOZNJA.

Ajd sada - TI! :wink:

pozz

a zamisli JEDNOSTAVNE RECI:

DOLCE - VITA

[alex radovic]

ps. na kraju ovih spekulacija, moram da priznam da si u pravu, Gibo,
i da se drzim svog prava da se PREDAM!

Dakle dosta mi je bilo ovog sexa, sa tobom, hahaha, oko spekulacija.

vreme je, ipak, neki faktor, u mojoj istini, a i imam nesto i da radim.

nadam se da se ne ljutis.

mozda ce da se nadje neko drugi!?

pozz

:lol:

[Jiva]

Ma sto bre komplikujes toliko, da se svi razbeze?

Nema to sve veze sa oni sto ti ja kazem, batice moj...

Onaj vozic, odozgo, bojis sa svim bojama istovremeno... Jer se sve stalkuje, stalk, stalk...

I tu se nas dvoje razdvajamo- uporno IAKO ti kazes da nije tako- al jeste, jer guras me u ideju o malo ovo malo ono- al kako ja sad tebi da instaliram da je to tamo-vamo, ono-ovo jedno sa dve boje?
[quote]
Dakle dosta mi je bilo ovog sexa, sa tobom, hahaha, oko spekulacija.

vreme je, ipak, neki faktor, u mojoj istini, a i imam nesto i da radim. [/quote]

Svasta- prvo me vuces za rukav, a onda kao neces... :roll: pa sta sam ti ja ovde? Hocu-necu? :lol:

Dobro, Alex, ti onda NEMOJ da se igras ili se igraj neigranja- kako god!

A ja tebi nista neverujem!

To sto ti verujes- tvoja stvar. I to sto drugima preporucujes da veruju- njihova stvar!

AL kad ja naidjem- E onda je to moja stvar!


A ja podrazumevam da se ti ne ljutis- pa nismo benci! :lol:

[Jiva]

[quote]Gibo , ne bih da te razocaram i tvoj ponos,
ali,
DOVOLJNO JE JEDNOM da kazes, da bih te razumeo.
to ZNACI - jasno!?
t.j. JEDNOSTAVNO, ZAISTA. [/quote]


E, ovo sam prevideo.

Nemoj zajebavati, mislim daj bre...

Zar time pocinjes poruku i dajes takav ton... Ne zajebaj. :D MAni to, bre, mi smo u oblaku- a ne u ti-ja odnosu.

[Dejjan]

[img]http://protaku.com/pics/mastur/nuku-nuku-jerk-off.jpg[/img]

[Vesna]

.
Gibo care, nenadmašni majstore [b]umolomki[/b], svaka čast !
Možemo samo da učimo od tebe ! 8)

[Dejjan]

Ja ođe viđe samo majstore rukolomki :lol:

[alex radovic]

ako ce nekome da pomogne, pa da prekrsim pravilo.

naleteh na - sinhronicitet na Fejsu:

Ce Kung je jako voleo da kritikuje ljude.
Konfucije mu rece:

-Ah,Ce,ti si zaista pametan,zar ne?
Ja nemam vremena za takve stvari :)

:lol:

[Jiva]

[url=http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=103984#p103984][img]http://www.objaveforum.com/phpBB3/images/quotebackarrow.gif[/img][/url][quote="alex radovic"]ako ce nekome da pomogne, pa da prekrsim pravilo.

naleteh na - sinhronicitet na Fejsu:

Ce Kung je jako voleo da kritikuje ljude.
Konfucije mu rece:

-Ah,Ce,ti si zaista pametan,zar ne?
Ja nemam vremena za takve stvari :)

:lol:[/quote]

A ipak je imao vremena Cea da kritikuje...

Kakav licemer, taj Konfucije... :wink:

[Jiva]

:) Da ne bude zabune, Alexa gotivim i mislim da je lik nevidjeni, bas zato mi je i zanimljiv da se igram snjim...

A onaj, Dejjo, taj bi na mufte da se ubaci u igru- al nista od toga dok nas lepo ne zamoli!!